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Rek Seven
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:04:00 -
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Boudicca Arbosa wrote:If you turds would just get off gates and hunt like REAL pirates, there wouldn't be a need to change the way gates work in low. Stop hugging gates to gain an advantage (because your 93843 million ISK ship going after that cheaply fit Rifter wasn't good enough) and get your asses out there and destroy ships in SPACE. Get off your front porch, you whiny pussies.
I'm a goddamn new player that immediately went to lowsec space to carve out my niche. Even I'M not ***** enough to sit at a gate. I hunt when I'm feeling froggy. You veterans sitting around at the gates make my teeth itch. Get off the gates and join the rest of the world.
Okay genius, where should people fight in low sec then?
You can't drag people into bubbles in low sec so the only places fights can happen is gates and stations (docking games are fun?). |
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Posted - 2012.08.03 12:41:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Boudicca Arbosa wrote:If you turds would just get off gates and hunt like REAL pirates, there wouldn't be a need to change the way gates work in low. Stop hugging gates to gain an advantage (because your 93843 million ISK ship going after that cheaply fit Rifter wasn't good enough) and get your asses out there and destroy ships in SPACE. Get off your front porch, you whiny pussies.
I'm a goddamn new player that immediately went to lowsec space to carve out my niche. Even I'M not ***** enough to sit at a gate. I hunt when I'm feeling froggy. You veterans sitting around at the gates make my teeth itch. Get off the gates and join the rest of the world. Okay genius, where should people fight in low sec then? You can't drag people into bubbles in low sec so the only places fights can happen is gates and stations (docking games are fun?). Ps. ganking mission runners isn't legit pvp. How about... belts? POCO's, POS's, WH entrance/ exits, anomalies, complexes, missions? You know, the more I think about it the more I feel the OP is right. If you guys actually would get your sticky rear OFF those gates you probably had more targets to pew with. 
Do you understand what pirates are? They don't sit by an asteroid hoping that someone might come along. They sit by gates because 90% of people will enter the system through the gates.
I'm not a pirate, i'm actually affiliated with anti-pirate groups so don't misunderstand where i'm coming from here, but I feel that low sec should be policed by the players.
After a pirate group has ganked that noob in a rifter, do you think they are going to stick around for a good fight with an anti-pirate group while also taking massive amounts of gate gun fire? I think people will now only attack ships they know they can take out in a few seconds and then doc/pos up. |
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Posted - 2012.08.03 14:14:00 -
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Boudicca Arbosa wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Boudicca Arbosa wrote:If you turds would just get off gates and hunt like REAL pirates, there wouldn't be a need to change the way gates work in low. Stop hugging gates to gain an advantage (because your 93843 million ISK ship going after that cheaply fit Rifter wasn't good enough) and get your asses out there and destroy ships in SPACE. Get off your front porch, you whiny pussies.
I'm a goddamn new player that immediately went to lowsec space to carve out my niche. Even I'M not ***** enough to sit at a gate. I hunt when I'm feeling froggy. You veterans sitting around at the gates make my teeth itch. Get off the gates and join the rest of the world. Okay genius, where should people fight in low sec then? You can't drag people into bubbles in low sec so the only places fights can happen is gates and stations (docking games are fun?). Ps. ganking mission runners isn't legit pvp. How about... belts? POCO's, POS's, WH entrance/ exits, anomalies, complexes, missions? You know, the more I think about it the more I feel the OP is right. If you guys actually would get your sticky rear OFF those gates you probably had more targets to pew with. Do you understand what pirates are? They don't sit by an asteroid hoping that someone might come along. They sit by gates because 90% of people will enter the system through the gates. I'm not a pirate, i'm actually affiliated with anti-pirate groups so don't misunderstand where i'm coming from here, but I feel that low sec should be policed by the players. After a pirate group has ganked that noob in a rifter, do you think they are going to stick around for a good fight with an anti-pirate group while also taking massive amounts of gate gun fire? I think people will now only attack ships they know they can take out in a few seconds and then doc/pos up. I don't consider myself a pirate, per se. I'm a mission runner and explorer. My Corporation just recently moved to Low Sec. To ensure that I felt like my new home felt "safe" I actively hunted people out on d-scan and went after them. I didn't sit on a gate hoping to poon someone that was passing through. This is akin to those idiots that sat in front of an instance portal in WoW killing lvl 30's trying to get into SM. It's just silly and actually kind of a ***** move. You have a d-scan. Use it. Get off gates. No one is impressed.
Just because you done like the way someone else plays doesn't mean it isn't a legit strategy. Gate camping has always been a part of eve and it always should be. It's even a tactic used in the novels and i bet there are a bunch of players that get a buzz from escaping gate camps as they type "fail" into local. 
But i am just playing devils advocate here and i have looked into the proposed change in detail. Will it be impossible to tank gate guns now or will it be manageable providing you have enough logi, resulting in an increase of blob warfare? |
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Posted - 2012.08.03 14:23:00 -
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flakeys wrote:
The gates is not the problem , it's the enviremont that needs to be adressed as it has had that need for year upon year upon year now.
This.
Low sec should be a place that high sec dwellers aspire to be but why bother when you can get rich from lvl 4's?
Don't get me started on FW. CCP apparently think their recent changes to the FW system system was good enough... Please  |
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Posted - 2012.08.03 14:58:00 -
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Seishi Maru wrote:
well .. was SOMETHIGN at least:P In fact FW made a lot for low sec, increase commerce in low sec and the rpesence of a strong group (the militias) make some zones less inhabited by large static pirate activities.
I guess so... I just want to be able to take over Amarr low sec for the Republic. |
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Posted - 2012.08.03 16:08:00 -
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IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Boudicca Arbosa wrote:If you turds would just get off gates and hunt like REAL pirates, there wouldn't be a need to change the way gates work in low. Stop hugging gates to gain an advantage (because your 93843 million ISK ship going after that cheaply fit Rifter wasn't good enough) and get your asses out there and destroy ships in SPACE. Get off your front porch, you whiny pussies.
I'm a goddamn new player that immediately went to lowsec space to carve out my niche. Even I'M not ***** enough to sit at a gate. I hunt when I'm feeling froggy. You veterans sitting around at the gates make my teeth itch. Get off the gates and join the rest of the world. Okay genius, where should people fight in low sec then? You can't drag people into bubbles in low sec so the only places fights can happen is gates and stations (docking games are fun?). Ps. ganking mission runners isn't legit pvp. Form fleet, burn up a POS? Form fleet, burn up a POCO? Thats what I'd be doing if I wanted to get into a fight. Eventually someone will respond. And before you whine about grinding structures. HTFU. Want a curb stomp battle, gotta find a curb.
Because you just click your fingers and you've destroyed a POS... Oh wait, i have to come back in 1 day 16 hours only to be hot dropped by 5 random corps? 
I do shoot structures now and again but it's boring as **** most of the time and i'd pick unpredictable gate fights anytime. |
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:33:00 -
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XxRTEKxX wrote:Why not add in factors to either encourage pilots to be in belts, at planets etc?
Such as? |
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:42:00 -
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Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
You've missed the point entirely. This isn't about what's fair or not. This is about people bitching that lowsec is dead. People have stated time and time and time and time again that they are afraid of gate campers. I hear it EVERY night. CCP tries to apply a fix to gatecamping to get people to move out of High and into Low, and they ***** more.
I wish you would have put it that way in your original popst, then we would have had all the petty arguments.
CCP should make it worthwhile for people to live in low sec in the first place. If it's really worth living in low sec more strong corps would live their and they would police the pirate gate camps.
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Posted - 2012.08.04 18:33:00 -
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I don't think that there is a problem with people being risk averse, it's more to do with the fact that you can get enough rewarded without risk. So why would you put yourself in harms way running a low sec complex when you can afk min and run level 4 missions any time you want in HS?
Low sec needs to be as different to high sec as w-space is to null. |
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